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==Barnstar==
'''Essalamu Aleykum'''!
[[Image:Barnstar.png]] For creating 48 good quality articles, I hereby ''award'' you a barnstar. Keep up the brilliant work. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 02:36, 28 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
==Administrator ==
Hi Barat!
I have nominated you for administrator [http://ug.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators#User:Barat here].
Once you have become administrator, you can translate the Interface messages from English into the Uyghur arabic alphabet.
--[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 22:27, 31 3-Ay 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot man, this is really encouraging! I will try my best.
[[User:Barat|Barat]]
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==Possible copyright violation==
Hello there. I noticed you were creating many pages, and some appear to be copied from other pages. Some examples are:
* [[Abduqadir_damollam]] copied from [http://www.izdinix.com/munbar/ShowPost.asp?ThreadID=16428 here].
* [[Qitan]] copied from [http://www.yurtum.cn/bbsxp/PrintPost.asp?ThreadID=95 here].
* [[ﻓﯩﻠﻮﺑﯧﺮ]] copied from [http://www.izdinix.com/munbar/Print.asp?ThreadID=22853 here].
If possible, could you explain why you have doing so? Until this is clarified, could you please stop creating articles? Thanks in advance. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 21:54, 1 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
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:According to Wikipedia’s [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others CopyrightPolicy] contributors are allowed to use the material copied from other websites only if the authors of those websites have expressly given their permission to you. If in doubt, then write the articles yourself using your own words. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 04:32, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
==Hoy==
Hoy Barat, at this point I think you are sockpuppet of User:Jose77. Many suspicious events surround this all. I hope you will oblige and prove for me that really you can speak Uyghur by translating following short sentence:
"I am Uyghur called Barat and I am using Wikipedia".
Because I known Jose77 cannot do such correct. --[[User:توشقان|توشقان]] 02:44, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
==explanation==
please do not misunderstand, I know very well about CopyrightPolicy of wikipedia, as well as in the other cases, thanks for reminding though. I did so cuz among arabic script uyghur forums ,its allowed to copy the forum content with mentioning the source site and the author. Thats the reason why i left source site and the author name at the end of each article here.If some of those websites mention that even the forum content can not to be copied without permission ,then I will surely ask their permission before i copy here. for my own work i will leave my own name.
By the way, I am an Uyghur. My elementary and high school education is in Uyghur, BSc degree is in Chinese, now I am studying for master in English.Plus i know very well Kazakh,and know basic German. The sentence above means " men bir uyghur,ismim barat, men wikipedianing ishletküchisi" digen menide. .
[[User:Barat|Barat]] 11:04, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
Here is the proof, the following line is a messenger talk between suzuk and me,suzuk is one of the administrator of Izdinix forum.
[13:13] Barat: sizdin soraydighan bir sual batti
[13:13] suzuk: ok
[13:13] Barat: adette izdinishtiki maqalilerni bashqa betlerge köchürüp chaplashqa bolamdu?
[13:14] suzuk: menbesini aptorini eskertip kocursingiz bolidu
english translation of last two line is:
barat: is it ok if I copy articles from izdinix to other sites?
suzuk: you can copy them with mentioning the source and the author.
[[User:Barat|Barat]] 11:23, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
*Unfortunately, permission to "copy" is not enough for Wikipedia. You need permission to use it on terms of the [[:en:GNU Free Documentation License|GFDL]], e.g permission to redistibute AND MODIFY it. [[User:MaxSem|MaxSem]] 14:08, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::As MaxSem stated, we need the administrators of those forums to accept release the content under a free license (GFDL, or public domain). That means, anyone is able to modify the content, and while we can leave a note stating the information came from a determined site (as a reference), anything inside the article could be modified, even published without problems. If he agrees with that statement, you should ask him to mail a permission to the Wikimedia Foundation. However, noting that there are many different posters, you may have to ask every poster for permission to copy (as well as the website owner). -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 23:09, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
:::yes , the copied files have not under GFDL yet, thats the reason why i left the source and author name at the end of each article, i thought its ok since there is a related ''disclaimer'' on the wikipedia( cuz i could not wait their permission for GFDL), i was only confirmed with copyright permission from administrator. Meanwhile, i have been contacting with the authors and try to get their permission . If i get it, i will remove all the source and author names there attached
[[User:Barat|Barat]] 23:46, 2 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::::Sorry, maybe you did not understand: there is nothing wrong with the names and URLs attached in the articles, as we are not against "acknowledging sources". What we need is that they accept the GFDL or public domain license. If they don't, we will have to delete all the articles, even if they have the name of the author and the source in them, because that content would be considered copyrighted and not suitable for Wikipedia. If they do agree with the change of the license, then the information can stay (including with the reference). In the meantime, if possible, could you add a link to the page from where you copied the content for every article? That way we would know exactly from which page you took what, and make it easier both keep the articles (if they are released under a free license) or delete them (after verifying they have been copied). I think we can wait some more days, maybe a week or two at much, but if by that time the permission is not granted (and remember that we need a real permission answer, saying something like "I release the content published in that determined page under the GFDL/public domain" (or another similar like the one appearing [[commons:Commons:Email_templates#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries|here]], but modified to fit articles), we will have to delete the articles. You are welcomed to rewrite them in your own words and with less content to keep them, as long as you don't blatantly copy sections of them.-- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 01:09, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
:::::oh,so sorry, i really did misunderstood! ok, i will wait for their permission for GFDL/public domain for a week or so, if i won´t get it, i will rewrite them. Thank you very much for your advice, I appreciated! [[User:Barat|Barat]] 06:48, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::::::i got a question: i got some permission ,as you stated above, they should send an email to wiki. foundation ,so could you give me such an email address. One more question,since some of the authors do not know english ,so is it ok that they write the email in Uyghur, or it has to be translated? in the latter case, i can translate for them. thanks a lot in advance![[User:Barat|Barat]] 22:14, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I have left a messsage on [http://ug.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ReyBrujo user:ReyBrujo's] talk page so hopefully he can find a solution soon. --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 23:31, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I left the Commons page with the information at my post above. Check [[commons:Commons:Email_templates#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries|here]] to check the text you need to send, and the address (permissions-commons AT wikimedia.org). And to make things easier, make the forum keepers send a mail to you, with all the information, and forward it to that address. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 01:59, 4 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
==Gratitude==
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'''Thankyou very much Barat for the excellent quality translation help and effort'''!
I am very Grateful; ''May Uyghur Wikipedia prosper''.
Yours Sincerely, From --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 21:03, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
Its totally my pleasure[[User:Barat|Barat]] 22:15, 3 4-Ay 2007 (UTC):-)
== Permission ==
Hi there. Did you get permission to post these threads? Enough time has passed, and without it, I will begin deleting the articles, unfortunately. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 02:30, 25 4-Ay 2007 (UTC)
Hi! yeh its been long time , but i only got one responce so far, cuz most of them do not have their own pc and never use email like things, and some of them have not showed on those forum for a long time.still i am trying to contact with them!
[[User:Barat|Barat]]
:Ok, I will delete the articles. If you get permission, please repost them and leave a note that you got permission (if possible, add a link to the permission request, and send it to Wikimedia Foundation as well). -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 22:30, 12 5-Ay 2007 (UTC)
::Can you make a list of articles you created by just copying them? I don't want to delete all your contributions, but if I don't have such list, I will be forced to do so. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 23:07, 12 5-Ay 2007 (UTC)
so sorry for this much late reply,extremely busy lately,barely have time to surf on internet.Actually i was thinking that rewrite those articles by myself, unfortunately i needed bit longer time to do that. Nevertheless, once I finish my thesis, i will start my own contribution.please notice that the articles without signature or with my own signature are all my own work [[User:Barat|Barat]].
:I guessed so. I deleted most of the ones with a reference (like ''izdinix munbiri aychiwer yollanmisi'' or similar. For the ones with your signature, I just deleted it from the article. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 18:04, 3 6-Ay 2007 (UTC)
== Sind Sie in Ulm? ==
Hallo, studieren Sie bei Uni Ulm?
01:22 {{|AshxanamlarUser:Ashxanamlar}}
Hallo, ja, ich studiere bei Uni Ulm. Und du auch oder? [[User:Barat|Barat]]
! Nee, ich studiere in München. Hallo
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==Thankyou very much==
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:!'''THANKYOU SO MUCH Barat for your Wonderful Translation help'''
:I am very very Grateful.
:''May you be Blessed and prosper in life''!
:Yours Sincerely, From --[[User:Jose77|Jose77]] 21:46, 17 7-Ay 2007 (UTC)
==Translation of the "Welcome Template"==
'''Hi Barat''',
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